made inevitable by the things that caused it. its just another part of a causal chain events that had been determined by what happened before it?|||"I've discussed a bit of this with a hard determinist. In that form, determinists believe that the future is absolutely set in stone. Any decision you believe you are making because of free will is just the result of a chain of events that create an inevitable outcome."
This is pretty correct...
They also believe that if you could somehow gather all of the information about the present state of the universe that you can predict where it will be in the next instance. In this way one could predict the future.
But this violates the laws of physics, more specifically the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which demonstrates the "probabilistic universe". I could go on and on...
AND SO I WILL
you said "He basically says it is a mistake to equate the microscopic world to the macroscopic world." This is false. Although at the macroscopic world it is often very practical to use the Newtonian paradigm when modeling the world, ignoring the microscopic world completely outrageous.
Two things I need to talk about, one is chaos theory. Not to be confused with the mathematical one, which is deterministic (read wikipedia) Even the smallest change in the fluctuation in the macroscopic body can effect the movement of the object somewhere down the line. Typically on a small enough time scale, with a big enough object, these microscopic flucuations can be ignored, but as time goes to infinity (but it doesn't take THAT long) the predictability will eventually go to zero.
2, It is important to understand the principles of Physics which explain WHY we can't predict them. One important thing one must understand is that our ability to predict the movement of particles is not limited because we don't have the tools to predict them, but it is the proven nature of being an observer. (this proof is not easy to explain, I looked for a more condensed version but couldn't find one) Just know that his principle is essential to a lot of contemporary physics, and his theories are highly corroborated.
Lastly, the most damning thing against determinism is the idea of black holes. Black holes result in a loss of information in the universe, because light is information. Black holes have a pull of gravity so strong that it will not allow for anything to escape from it (except the occasional positron and such) (read Hawking). Black holes are a consequence of quantum theory and General relativity, and the theories surrounding them all support the idea of black holes. They literally poke a "hole" in determinism, haha.
In conclusion, quantum theory rejects determinism on the microscopic scale, chaos theory then takes that and rejects it on the larger scale, and black holes ruin the continuity of information flow from past to present.|||I've discussed a bit of this with a hard determinist. In that form, determinists believe that the future is absolutely set in stone. Any decision you believe you are making because of free will is just the result of a chain of events that create an inevitable outcome. I'm not sure why someone would want to believe that at all.|||www.mb-soft.com/believe/text/determin.ht鈥?/div>
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